June 11, 2023

Episode 12

Tolkien Would Hate This Podcast Part 2: Sexuality & Queerness

Hosts & Guests



(she/they) A queer Tolkien scholar and Zelda nerd interested in adaptation, audience reception, and biography.



(she/her) An acquirer of books, a queer-rights activist, serves as as the Subscriptions Steward of the Mythopoeic Society, and is a Professional Nerd (okay, technically it’s an unpaid internship).



(she/her) Just another weird Tolkien geek living in the Grey Havens (also known as Seattle WA) with two rabbits and far too few books.



W. H. Auden, About The House.

Allan Bérubé, Coming Out Under Fire: The History of Gay Men and Women in World War II.

Stephen Bourne, Fighting Proud: The Untold Story of the Gay Men Who Served in Two World Wars.

Humphrey Carpenter, J.R.R. Tolkien: A Biography.

Gay Histories and Cultures: An Encyclopedia. Ed. George E. Haggerty, John Beynon, Douglas Eisner.

Clyde S. Kilby, Tolkien and the Silmarillion.

Huw Lemmey, Ben Miller, Bad Gays: A Homosexual History.

Mary Renault, The King Must Die.

Mary Renault, The Bull from the Sea.

Graham Robb, Strangers: Homosexual Love in the Nineteeth Century.

J.R.R. Tolkien, The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien. Ed. Humphrey Carpenter.

J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings.

J.R.R. Tolkien, The Silmarillion. Ed. Christopher Tolkien.

J.R.R. Tolkien, Unfinished Tales of Numenor and Middle-earth. Ed. Christopher Tolkien.

Stephen Vider, The Queerness of Home: Gender, Sexuality & the Politics of Domesticity after World War II.



“6 MAY 1933: Looting of the Institute of Sexology”. Holocaust Memorial Day Trust.

David M. Craig,”‘Queer Lodgings’: Gender and Sexuality in The Lord of the Rings”. Mallorn.

David John Frank, Bayliss J. Camp, Steven A. Boutcher, “Worldwide Trends in the Criminal Regulation of Sex, 1945 to 2005.” American Sociological Review.

“Gender & Sexuality shifts in the 1920s-1940s”. Investigating Psychology: CHIPs.

Ty Rosenthal, “Warm Beds Are Good: Sex and Libido in Tolkien’s Writing”. Mallorn.

About This Episode

In the second part of our ‘Tolkien Would Hate This Podcast’ series, Leah, Grace, and Alicia examine the world in Tolkien’s time as it relates to sexuality and queerness, and JRRT’s own opinions, experiences, and relationships with them. Listen to Grace’s theory that polyamory could have prevented the events of The Silmarillion, and the evidence that Tolkien stayed up late in the bath reading a book of gay poetry that included references to glory holes. #ReleaseTheTolkienSmut

CW: sexual assault, rape, homophobia, suicide, HIV/AIDS

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